HARVEYJAMES™
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Tricks O' The Trade 
19th-Sep-2009 08:53 am

Hey! What is up! Today I'm gonna give ya'll a glimpse BEHIND THE MAGICIAN'S CURTAIN and show you how I created that t-shirt image for Attract Mode, over a year ago. It seems to be pretty popular right now so I thought it was a perfect time to TOTALLY RUIN THE MYSTIQUE (buy my shirt)





I got the gig to draw for Attract Mode while I was working as a schoolteacher in South Korea last year. The brief as given to me by Adam Robezzoli was basically 'A cute girl playing a game boy' . I made a few sketches, but nothing that came out felt striking enough to be used on a t-shirt.













You will notice that the girl has two left feet! can you see how rusty I was

Alright, that wasn't working, so I hit upon this sort of unique way of using photo reference where I gathered a bunch of pictures and kind of Frankensteined them into a rough approximation of the image I wanted. Check this shit out:







It was a close encounter.So, lemme break down how I made this thing- firstly, the head is that of web cartoonist Liz Greenfield. I always liked this picture from Liz's myspace, and the headphones seemed pretty perfect for conveying the sense of absorption I wanted our character to have in her game.

Liz is a good lookin' lady, so her face became a partial basis for the girl in the final drawing. Awkwardly, when I got back to England I actually got introduced to Liz at a con and sort of chatted to her briefly. I briefly toyed with dropping the HURUDR I BASED A PICTURE ON YOU bomb but ultimately decided to keep it in the hangar. Needless to say, I felt (and still feel) a little creepy about this but whaddyagonnadu.










The body is actually from this picture of terrible pop star Ashlee Simpson. I always thought it was a cool pose, so I changed the angle of the head, leaned her back a bit, and removed the arms.


Although I'm very pleased with the final image, I think the lesson I learned here was that if I was ever to use photo reference again, I should probably use much more culturally neutral sources- a number of people spotted that I'd used a drawing of Ashlee Simpson as a large part of the basis of this design, and once it was out there I felt sort of bad, since I guess one's opinion of terrible pop star Ashlee Simpson could conceivably colour one's opinon of the shirt. Had I done it today I might have had more confidence in inventing a pose and outfit from scratch, but what's done is done, I guess.



Lastly, her new arms are from a photograph I got by google image searching 'woman playing gameboy', and then scrolling through the results until I got a picture that fit my collage. I put them all together and then started sketching from the image on my computer screen.











On the left's the original drawing- on the right, the same drawing after digital manipulation. During this time I used Photoshop's warp and selection tools to touch-up my inking to a very heavy extent, to the point where I could make good drawings out of bad drawings, pretty much. As you can see, on paper this was actually a terrible, terrible goopy drawing with a huge head and hardly any torso and god knows what else wrong with it, but I basically used photoshop to bend it to fit around the original photomontage it was sketched from and correct all the mistakes.

Yeah! Our character, who for reasons I cannot legally disclose I am calling Ash Greenfield, is born! 



Finally, I multi-layered the inks over themselves, and converted the original photo-montage into benday dots and selectively added it into the composition, too, to provide shading and visual interest. It took a lot of experimenting, but eventually I ended up with something I was happy with.




Flash forward a couple of months, and here's Attract Mode's Adam wearing the shirt at the Giant Robot show in San Francisco. The shirt is complete! I think the finished article went over pretty well, since apparently at the 2008 Penny Arcade Expo a bunch of people were telling Adam they wanted to 'date the chick'. Now it's available to buy online it seems to be sellin' out pretty fast. I think Adam is finally starting to see some money coming back off this venture!

As for me, the flat fee I got paid went straight home to my mum in England, so I didn't actually see a penny from the shirt- but! New shirts from me will be coming soon from the Attract Mode store! Maybe I will get rich at some point, too


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Comments 
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19th-Sep-2009 10:21 am (UTC)
Just trace a bunch of pictures of Ashlee Simpson, it's what I do
19th-Sep-2009 02:00 pm (UTC)
It was based on Liz Greenfield? Awesome!

Which reminds me... I haven't heard anything about her since the UK Thing! D:
19th-Sep-2009 05:17 pm (UTC)
She's locked in my trunk
19th-Sep-2009 03:03 pm (UTC)
You totally should have kept the original face. 8D
19th-Sep-2009 03:18 pm (UTC)
Anonymous
"I hit upon this sort of unique way of using photo reference"....

people have been doing this since forever, it's not unique in the slightest.

It feels like you've tricked everyone Harvey James. It'd have been almost forgivable if you had made this post BEFORE the shirts were put on sale. To be honest I'd feel really dissapointed and somewhat dirty if I had bought one and then found out it's just a traced image of Ashlee Simpson and some internet person.

"As for me, the flat fee I got paid went straight home to my mum in England, so I didn't actually see a penny from the shirt"

lol did this really happen? sounds like a pathetic attempt to get sympathy and save face.

I've noticed several other images on your journal are copied/rippedoff too. There's a really obvious Sylvia from no more heroes, and a Noodle from GOrillaz. If anyone wants to see I'd be happy to post them. I'd love to hear harvey's backpeddling excuse for those.
19th-Sep-2009 03:49 pm (UTC)
Yes, if anyone needs to be brought down a notch, it's James Harvey. I heard that he was able to eat a meal today, what an elitist

I, too have noticed that James Harvey is a completely fake artist, since he draws using photo references and has seen other art before, instead of being a blind autistic child who has developed an understanding of aesthetics and human anatomy through pure deduction, mindless luck, and a privately developed theory of animal evolution drafted from glances at rocks and the sky (but not too many). In other words, unsullied by the malevolently deceitful copout of observation. I can't tell you how SICK it MAKES ME when I see some small-shit artist drawing humans with two legs and nostrils, because I just KNOW that they cheated (by looking at the world around them ever) and they're not real artists.

And it is precisely due to this, the greatest of all crimes, that he has been living off the sweat of the backs of you and me, swimming in a pyramid-shaped pool and receiving a bunch of awards that should have gone to me or something.

Anyway, we should all get back to stabbing a photo of Ashlee Simpson and then marrying it while razor-masturbating. GOD ASHLEE YOU MAKE ME FEEL SO DISSSAPOINTED AND DIRTEEE, I DID NOT CONSIDER BUYING THIS SHIRT OR ANY OTHER SHIRT EVER FOR EVEN A MOMENT BUT I AM GOING TO BITCH ABOUT IT ANONYMOUSLY ON THIS LIVEJOURNAL UNTIL THE 'WICKED' MARATHON STARTS
19th-Sep-2009 04:53 pm (UTC)
Ha ha, Ms. Simpson can't dance or sing but she's useful photo reference. It's nice that you shared this. I've been looking at a lot of the photo reference stuff Moebius has used in the past; it's neat because you can see where the artist is true to the original and where the liberties are taken (the best part always).

Liz Greenfield has amazing hair.
19th-Sep-2009 04:56 pm (UTC)
Wow, show me this Mobius thing!
19th-Sep-2009 05:47 pm (UTC)
grrrr I am so angry at this revelation

well no not really, it's a sweet looking shirt even if Ashlee Simpson is lurking inside it
19th-Sep-2009 07:16 pm (UTC)
I think it's way more troubling that people actually recognized the pose from an Ashley Simpson photo. Those people need to look inside themselves and question why they are looking at photos of Ashley Simpson in the first place.
19th-Sep-2009 08:08 pm (UTC)
Yeah, what kind of freak types 'Ashley Simpson' into google image search I mean really
19th-Sep-2009 07:16 pm (UTC)
This is a damn cool technique! I'm always photographing my friends and gluing them together in weird ways to make a piece of photo reference...this habit disturbs them somewhat. Anyhow, I wish you had left the octopus hat in :D
19th-Sep-2009 10:11 pm (UTC)
COULDA LIVED MY WHOLE LIFE WITHOUT SEEIN THAT CRAZY LIZ SIMPSON FRANKENSTIEIN

I have not seen a trace of liz anywhere lately....wonder what she'zs up to
19th-Sep-2009 10:29 pm (UTC)
I think she left our planet
19th-Sep-2009 10:22 pm (UTC)
Like this a lot.
19th-Sep-2009 11:18 pm (UTC)
What if original email got garbled and you drew a hot boy playing a game girl?!?! Imagine the HILARITY!! But yeah who cares, photo ref is photo ref, it's not like the outcome looked exactly like the photos used. I do wish you'd kept greeny's roll eyed expression though.

I think Liz is in a kitchen somewhere, cooking. She said she enjoys cooking more than comics nowadays, I think? Check her LJ, she made a post a while back. Food IS tastier than comics, I guess.
20th-Sep-2009 12:39 am (UTC)
Anonymous
i don't have a problem with photo reference, but the fact that it was so obviously traced really bothers me. why do you have to resort to tracing, especially for an image you know you'd be making money on? (the part about your mum is surely bs.) i think it's really disappointing that copying the pose from something wasn't enough, but you actually had to trace. a 10 year old can do this.

it just puts the credibility of your other artwork into doubt if you have the balls to sell an image you ripped off so blatantly.
20th-Sep-2009 12:58 am (UTC)
Who said it was traced!



Also, here's the kind of emails I got treated to reading in South Korea as a result of paypalling my mum £444 (my fee for the drawing)

I would read stuff like this at my desk in the morning and THEN teach

"Hi Jamie
I haven't emailed you recently as I have been trying to overcome a problem I am now having accessing the paypal account.
They only just put the two small amounts into my account after much telephoning. The amounts are 11p and 7p. Since then I have not been able to log in. I have tried every procedure that they have asked of me and it has said this account has been blocked. Or they do not recognise my password. Previously it was not a problem and I could see the £444 but was waiting to confirm the two small amounts to reactivate the account. I am spending 1.50 per minute trying to solve this problem and have decided that you are probably more likely to do this than I am. All that has to be done is tell them what the amounts are and then add the seriel number that I was given weeks ago 1272-5412-9100-3509-4445.
I think the problem might stem from the fact that there is more than one email address that has access to the account. Let me know how you get on and Dad says, when you have managed to sort out the air fare with the school please send him a cheque and not pay pal. Hope everything is going OK love you lots and miss you.

Love mum xxxxx"


Eventually, her account just disappeared- somehow, she managed to get it shut down. Here's the letter I had to send to paypal. It was an incredibly stressful time in my life. It's really not great form to come onto my livejournal, posting anonymously, and tell me it never happened.


Original Message Follows:
------------------------
Form Message
customer subject: YOU DELETED MY MUM'S ACCOUNT.
customer message: Additional Information: 'I'm working all fucking day
every fucking day in Korea and I just had ### pounds sent to my mum's
account. She lives in England. Now she can't log on to it. Apparently
the account doesn't exist anymore! WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS. Her name is
Joan Harvey. Her account email was [xxxxxxxxxx] although
that's from and old isp account: her actual email address is
[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] .

SORT IT OUT. I've never been as angry about anything in my LIFE. I'M AS
SERIOUS AS A FUCKING HEART ATTACK.

James Harvey'

It did the trick, by the way! She got the money, in the end.

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20th-Sep-2009 12:46 am (UTC)
HOW interesting
20th-Sep-2009 03:03 am (UTC)
I no like ashlee simpons and her sister! PUKE!
20th-Sep-2009 03:05 am (UTC)
cool it, bro
20th-Sep-2009 03:36 am (UTC)
heh i do stuff like this! i take part of a photo reference and work around with it. very cool. fashion shoots tend to have great and strange poses too. i love this design by the way!! also i wish people would stop saying "traced" you didnt trace the photo you referenced it >-< THERES A DIFFERENCE
20th-Sep-2009 07:04 am (UTC)
props to you, it took guts to show the original. (sorry, but it's pretty bad, haha)
i'm going to support your UNABASHED SATANIC THIEVERY by buying this shirt
20th-Sep-2009 11:02 am (UTC)
Thanks bro!

Read the comments to this post, they're pretty funny
20th-Sep-2009 11:28 am (UTC)
Anonymous
Look at me I'm Harvey James summoning up my internet army so that they'll make me feel better when I start backpedaling like mad because someone finally called me out on a drawing I traced.

Will Harvey James delete this comment so that only he will know this secret shame or will he keep it up so that his internet fanboys can fight back and suck his dick more?
20th-Sep-2009 11:42 am (UTC)

Of course not, I think this shit is hilarious

Also, you have a funny idea of what 'backpedalling' is

And 'fanboys'

and 'tracing'

I am still waitin' to hear which of my drawings is stolen from Noodle from the Gorillaz!

Also, "Thank you for your edit(s) to Halopedia, the definitive source for Halo information."

A quick IP trace reveals that all the people posting anonymously are like 14-year-old boys, why is this a surprise
20th-Sep-2009 05:19 pm (UTC)
Anonymous
hey everyone, i posted this in a thread response to harveyjames, but i thought it should post it here, so everyone knows what's up. you've all had to look at my unpleasantness, not just harveyjames, so i suppose this should be addressed to all of you. i'm cutting and pasting from my previous comment; feel free to make jokes about how i'm 'tracing' too. i deserve them.

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harveyjames, this is hard for me to type, but i owe you an apology. i did some soul-searching last night and this morning (i haven't been sleeping much) and came to the conclusion that i've been a dick to you, for reasons unrelated. like i said, i think you're an undeniably talented artist; so talented that i, like a lot of your colleagues, feel inadequate. when i saw this post, i thought i saw an opportunity to give voice to the anger-turned-inward that i thought a lot of people must feel. i thought it would culminate in a massive uprising in the comments, all of us saying, 'harveyjames is a fraud, see, he's not really that much better than me' -- even though we would all know it was a lie, i thought it would make us feel better.

it turns out, however, that instead of a mob-in-waiting, your lj is frequented by true admirers and real friends ready to defend you. another way in which you've got me beat, i suppose. it was irrational to think otherwise, really. like i said, i haven't been sleeping much at night; recently i made the mistake of masturbating into a woolen sock, which, as i realized after i climax and pulled it off, was abrasive enough to leave a massive road-burn covering the head of my penis. the trauma quickly became overrun by herpes blisters (yes, I have herpes, though i suppose that's a different story), and the resulting discomfort has been keeping me awake at night and histrionic during the day. fortunately i don't have to be in public much, since wearing underwear hurts so badly; one of the few times i'm glad i got fired, i guess. who says looking at porn in the office is necessarily bad?

so, yes, long story short, it's been easier to baselessly criticize you and take advantage of your friendly and open attitude toward commenters than it has been to get off my ass and get better at my own art. i'm sure that's the story for a lot of people. of course, they have the good sense to keep their thoughts to themselves. i guess i've got a lot of growing up to do.

anyway, time for another bath. it's the least painful way for me to urinate.
20th-Sep-2009 06:30 pm (UTC)
holy fuck i just read all the comments to this entry and my fucking god it's not that big of a deal
20th-Sep-2009 09:28 pm (UTC)
How dare you use photo-referencing Harvey James, you are not a real artist if you use a technique that artist's use ALL THE TIME god I hate you

THIS IS LIKE FINDING OUT SANTA ISN'T REAL
21st-Sep-2009 04:15 am (UTC)
THIS
21st-Sep-2009 04:15 am (UTC)
Seriously? All that schlep? Perhaps you could have used C*O*N*S*T*R*U*C*T*I*O*N!

(Insert my construction based treatment of your design because I don't have a scanner at the mo in my new flat.)
21st-Sep-2009 06:52 am (UTC)
I'd be really interested to see it, thanks!

Edited at 2009-09-21 11:46 am (UTC)
21st-Sep-2009 07:24 am (UTC)
harveyjames how can you copy your drawing from a photo and/or set of photos, how can you

if you think about it its like copying your drawing from a live person or a tree or a rock, how arrogant do you have to be to think "whoop im harvey james, i see that thing, that thing in nature, and i can copy it, by drawing, because i style myself as a god"

do you like playing god harveyjames, do you
21st-Sep-2009 11:57 pm (UTC) - Following You
Anonymous
Hey there!
In your last tweets you were surprised that someone's gay, wanted to call your crew the heterosexuals and celebrated a video full of undifferentiated hate...
just wanted to tell you

..that i like your shirt
22nd-Sep-2009 01:05 am (UTC) - Re: Following You
That was a creepy message

It is well documented I am a big pal to the gays
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